http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/11/max_planck_outrage/
I think it is a case of lost in transcription.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/11/max_planck_outrage/
I think it is a case of lost in transcription.
There are several types of people in the worlds who can be successed morally or immorally.
1. People who are waiting for the opportunity are my first order food chain.
2. People who are fighting for the opportunity are my second order food chain.
3. People who are creating opportunity for themself are my third order food chain.
4. People who are waiting for crisis as opportunity for themself are my fourth order food chain.
5. Finally, people who are creating crisis for someone as an opportunity for themself are my fifth order food chain.
which order are you in?
Let's say there is a god. We all have faith to believe our destination.
When bad thing happens, as the believers, they must believe that it must have reason for such explanation. Finally, it must be the part of god's plan.
To believers, do you agree above statement? Let's say, god has a plan for us.
Now, let's say above situation can be programmed into robot.
I will do the following things:
1. Set me as the host, the robot must obey what I say
2. Ask the robot to perform task, if it fail to do so, don't need to evaluate the failure. Just repeat the task, else stop the task.
3. Finally, program this as a loop.
The robot will do what I tell him to do and will never be able to evaluate the cause of failure. Because I programm the faith program into my robot. It is simply I have a plan.
Now, is believer like the robot? All beliver has faith, has destiny, has god.
Perhaps, people would argue that what robot does not have is "free-well". The believer got "free-well", hence it is different.
What can I say if your free-well is trapped to do the task like my robot do...what make it difference?
In this analogy, the process may not be similiar, but the outcome is the same.
If you don't understand what I try to express... please rise your vioce.
Your thoughts are welcome.
^_^
Refer to http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
1. Does God exist?
The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today. Therefore, god exist.
First question, does the designer name god? can you find the word "designer" in the bible? If there is a designer, the designer must have idea to design the world. Does it suggset that the designer IS the product of programing? simply because of its firm idea and solid plan? If the god can just do its plan, hence its plan has proved that the god is just a robot. No emotion, no affection and just got a solid design plan. If so, the designer is not god. Or simply put, there is neither designer nor god in the universe.
2. Does God exist? The human brain's complexity shows a higher intelligence behind it.
So there is god. Huh?
First question, how complex can be in our human brain compared to other organisms? like virus, plant, bacterials, other primates... I would like to think they are also complex as well. it all comes to the ability of problem-solving. Those organisms have developed the skills to solve the problem for their daily survival. They evolved as well as human brain. It is not fair to make such oversimply statement that link to the existent of god.
If the suggestion of higer intelligence is pointing to the result of moral behavior, hence there is existent of god. My second question is:
Can the results of the moral behavior or human mind stimulate the need and to create the story of god in order to stabilize the human society in old days? in other words, it is human mind moral behavior created god, not god created human.
3. Does God exist? "Chance" or "natural causes" are insufficient explanations.
If one cannot give reasonable explanation to certain result, hence there is god. This is really naive and oversimply...
For example, I don't know how to explain the photosynthesis, hence there is a god, and god can explain this. How informative it is? you tell me, believers. perhaps, I would simply say.. I don't know. How hard it is to say "I don't know". ^_^
4. Does God exist? To state with certainty that there is no God, a person has to ignore the passion of an enormously vast number of people who are convinced that there is a God.
Firstly, is quantity relevance to this question? I think it is quite unbeliveable. Well, the quality does not mean anything!!!! It matter the quality of the opinion. If you want the world to vote for this issue, I would say.. there is no god, let say China will vote first. Secondly, if there is more believers today, it does not mean it will have more and more believers tomorrow or in the future, it could be decreased in 2020, who knows? In other words, providing number of population to suggest the existent of god is irrelavant. plus How do you know his god is simililar or exactly to your god? If you insist on the number is the evidence for the existent of god, so God is dependent on the number? interesting...so if the number is decrease, may i say the god is shrinking? Very funny.....
5. Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.
My first question is: come to see him for what? my second question is that is god being programed to do that? If so, how interesting it is.... a programmed god. the god must be programed by the bible.
I don't even know this is a solid answer to the existent of god.
6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God pursuing us.
ahh.. finally, I see the existent of god, it is Jesus Christ.. Yahoo... problem solved.... wait the minute, why we have to go through to answer the question of 1-5 first? Why can we just jump to the question of number 6? How diffucult to use this number 6 as number 1? ahh.. it is a strategy..Why not simply say: Jesus Christ prove god existent. end of story..It would save more money and time to do so....
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All the inputs or thoughts are welcome.
I belive everyone is an atheist when you show your belief to other belief systems. I think it is called relative atheist. For example: I am a muslim, I don't believe in Christian god. it makes me as an atheist in Christian world. Again, it also suggested that I am not an agnostic simply because I have my belief system as a Muslim.
Moreover, when there is religious war, it is because of the fighting for being other atheisms. Do you agree? hence relative atheism starts the war.
Therefore, it is important to think that being atheist is just another human nature.
When we talk about atheism, perhaps by default it means absolute atheism. It implies that the belief system of deity is null.
Can null belief advance human civilization? Can null belief stimulate understanding of nature? Can null belief make human being more moral? and fianlly, Can null belief promote peace?
We live in the worlds where are filled with less certainty and more uncertainty. When we try to make a single decision, we applied our moral thought, rational thinking and random thought as the factors for decision making.
How do human copes with the progressive event of uncertainty? perhaps we will start from our imagination. Because of imagination, we could come up with the agreement to make good decision for overcoming uncertainty. According to the inductive reasoning, people will always has problems in the future and uncertainty in their mind.
It is the unknown that make us create conceptual idea, so that we can test the idea and eventually theorize the unkonwn. for example germ thoery and evolution theory..
The post that I want to emphasize is the order of two things: unkonwn and imagination.
it is because of the effect of unknonws, hence we have imagination. In other words, unknowns are part of our imagination but not imagination is part of the unknowns.
I don't think we can imaginate something by not knowing the effect or seeing the effect or perhaps false effect.
If you insist on that imagination precedes unknown. it could be either null effect or negative effect. If using negative effect as part of the imagination, I think it wil waste the energy of imagination.
To believers, if you want to prove the existent of god in our world (not the after life world), try following experiments:
Stop praying for 1 day compared to 100 years.
Stop chanting for 1 day compared to 100 years.
Stop attending church for 1 week compared to 100 years
Then compare the differences. If you cannot live up to 100 years, then pick 50 years. Try it and see you got any effect from god. if you got effect from god. For example, punishment for participating this experiment.
The idea is to prove there is god which he is watching you, but you have to complete this experiment in order to see the effect. Wanna try?
To believers, can you answer me this question.
I want to know how do you see your god at in present, past and future.
I am also curious how you could come up with the answer to explain my question.
If you don't know, then my question is why you don't know and how do you know that you don't know. (perhaps you can still come up with the answer, right? Hint: try your imagination) ^_^
Thanks.
In order to fix a problem, the first thing to do is to identify the problem. Agree?
If there is no problem and yet you are convinced that there is a problem. hence it is your job to show us the problem and then we can identify the problem with agreement.
The pro-problem people should take initiative to show us the problem. yet I still don't see the problem.
Perhaps, it is a problematic problem or it is simply a problem of hoax. It makes you believe that there is a problem. Your belief in the problem makes you imagine the problem and yet don't know how to identify the problem and solve the problem. Well the best thing for pro-problem can do is to create a new problem. perhaps it is moral to do so. what do you think?
If you cannot identify the problem, how can you claim there is a problem or to fix the problem?
Got problem? might to share your problem?
Information provides knowledge-based certainty to drive decision making. whether it is "good" or "bad" decision, the outcomes will be determined by the information.
The information does not provide "good" or "bad" result; instead, human interest is the source of determining "good" or "bad".
As a citizen, people should live in a well informed society. Making a good decision rely on information. If a poor decision is being made, usually it is contributed by obtaining inadequate information.
If information is so important for making good decision. the question is:
Is information as a helper or determiner in our moral world?
If you cannot obtain enough information to make a good decision to save the world (for example), therefore predisposed moral-driven decision will be chosen as a "good" decision.
Isn't it ironic? moral-drive decision making isn't a legitimate resolution in terms of problem solving, yet people are so incline to take the uncertainty, and make it as if a certainty outcome.
In my opinion, helpful information is the key to make good decision in a well defined situation. in fact, it is the information drive our society to make good decision, not the moral decision to drive our society to make good decision.
Information should be provided freely and openly.so that people can make good decision for their life and their future.
It is moral to extract more information from nature and it is immoral to restrict the information for well-informed society.
I read this article from Cell.
It is quite interesting in terms of scientific crtical view point.
If you have any thougts after reading this article, please share.
If you are interested in this article. Please buy it. ^_^
I found this article that is very interesting. I just wanted to share.
If you have any thoughts, please share!
What do you think if the students move into Church?
- I think that the "bad or low-grade" students should be the object of study group, in other words, they don't attend Church isn't the only reason which they failed in school .
The story of Timothy McLean has shocked the world, no question about it.
Think deeply and simply just look at the result of incident, it makes me wonder the reality is similar to the movie- No country for old men.
The intention of killing does not solely depend on the motive and purpose, it also depends on that moment of luck. (some called it ticking bomb of fate.)
When the moment is triggered, it cannot be stopped. (negatively speaking)
What can we learn from this?
Human potential is so profound.
Human behavior is interesting yet dangerous.
Bottom line, try to enjoy your life when you can because shit does happen.
R.I.P, Tim
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/01/stabbing-victim.html?ref=rss
All cellular organisms are sharing many common features which allow them to survive. Problem solving is one of them. It suggests that all cellular organisms obtaine the "skills" to solve the problem of nature in order for them to survive in nature.
Therefore, the ability of problem solving has linked to intelligence.
In nature, there are two modules of intelligence, namely passive and active.
Passive intelligence is the result of trial and error. In contrast, active intelligence is the result of learning and memory.
It has been said that once there is intelligence, it must have the designer.
Intelligent design is the interpretation of positive result, in contrast, intelligence itself is the contrast between the positive and negative result.
There is not such thing as design because there are many negative result in nature. Do you agree?
After all, intelligent design, most people believe or like to see it as the product of design just because we are not paying attention on the negative result.
We human takes negative result for granted.
All cellular organisms have the skill of problem solving. To all cellular organisms, some problems are history and some are not. The on-going and optimized skill of problem solving make them existent.
The question is how to develop the skill of problem solving? By the designer or intelligence?
A designer can create a method to solve problem, the question is how good is the designer?
An intelligent problem solving can only be judged by human senses and knowledge. Therefore
It can be either ran by active and passive intelligence. The method of passive intelligence which is usually and heavily relies on the basic of trial and error and adaptation. These are parts of the process of nature selection.
On the other hand, the active intelligence is driven by hierarchical nervous system. Neurons can determine part of your physiological behavior.
Intelligent design, is done by the designer, and the product of designer must be intelligent. The creation of intelligent is the wisdom of the designer. The designer is intelligence.
Hi,
Recently there are many natural disasters around the world. I don't think I need to mention them.
I would like to know what are your favorite charitable organization?
Personally, I am using GlobalGiving.
I think, it is important to understand evolution and Orgel's first rule
"Whenever a spontaneous process is too slow or too inefficient a protein will evolve to speed it up or make it more efficient."
To understand human brain or behavior, the structure of proteins are the fundamental factors.
AND
His second rule:
"Evolution is cleverer than you are."
Nature does contain potential power that to run evolution and to advance evolution. Agree?
I had a few conversations with a believer.
In our conversatoin, he said, "Human behavior is absolute and driven by the same passions. The only way to regulate it for the common good is to have a set of absolute values."
What do you think of this statement. Is it a common view as a believer or conservatism?
Common good?
What is common good of yours compared to his.
Absolute values?
I suggests the values cannot be chnaged. First of all, is it possible? Secondly, what do you think of absolute values?
The same passions?
of what? same as in an intention? or motivation?
Can you relate this statement to anyone you happen to know, which share the same values of this believer?
Your thought?
Wow. This is getting hot. I love to watch such human behavior...
From now on, you can choose your preferences in the world of knowledge.
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
.... Why conservapedia is a dot com website? is a profit organization? just curious.
The dogma of moral value is similar to Godwin's law, and you are banned to test the limitation of moral value. Then, how can we conciliate the conflict of moral issues without the discussion?
Nazi and Hitler are always 100% the bad guy? right? Can his mistake be discussed?
Can his mistake be forgiven? Even the image of Nazi and Hitler is always notorious...
Can or Can't we discuss or change moral values if it is related to Godwin's law?
Your personal experience depends on your memory. One would argue that human faith cannot be tested or converted. Perhaps it is or it isn't because they take human memory for granted.
Human memory serves as a learning reservoir to protect human being from other predators. When faith is inoculated to childhood, the memory of faith has to be functioned at the beginning and adopted.
One interesting observation about faith and memory is that if you lose your memory, will your faith still be sustained?
Perhaps not, your identity and faith are depended by your memory.
Memory is an abstract object, yet to produce faith-based memory is a matter of physical object- Our synapses, neuronal interaction and external stimuli...
Is it important to know the interaction between faith and human memory?
Of course..because:
(my bold statement) :
In a way, faith is a serial of programs which is ran by the neurons. Now, if you ask me how to have faith, it is because of your neurons.. not Supernatural being...
and now if you ask me why we have faith, it is because of your synapses, not supernatural being..
.. ^_^
If there are tools to explore and study human behavior, then any hoaxes can be the candidate. Because of such features:
1. It is an objective falsehood.
2. It is a well-designed to fool human behavoir.
3. It is a well-intensed to manipulate/test people's mind.
Now, the question is:
How do you distinguish a true story from a haox?
By Knolwedge ( via internet)? Personal Experience? Science? Phiolosophy?
Why do you believe that the sun will rise tomorrow?
How do you know?
Is it fact, theory or fiction?
Personally, it might sound a simple questions. (Indeed, these are simple questions)
Once I took one more step to think about these questions, I found it is very complicated in terms of the response of human behavior.
I think these are the basic questions to people whom are curious about belief and logical thinking.
In terms of simplicity, there is no such thing as theist, atheistic, or agnostic. From a religious point of view, these terms make sense to them as if yes, no and wait for god.
In my opinion, the world where I live human behavior can be divided into :
Matter and non-matter
attention and non-attention
Business and non-business.
money-related and non-money-related
Concern and non-concern
Healthy neuron and non-healthy neuron
TV and non-TV
Water and non-water
Science and non-science
function and non-function
Active and non-active
Sugar and non-sugar
and finally:
God driven mind and non-God driven mind...
How simple will it be if everyone think that way?
I am curious what are the relationship between believer and their god.
I hope to use these questions as an understanding tool to explore believers' mind:
1. What happen before the creation of god.
2. What happen beforelife, in other words, I am not asking what happen afterlife.
3. If god makes all the things, what are the nothing which god has made. (because god cannot make nothing but something.)
4. If god created logic, then what is the logic of disbelief?
5. Which one god created first, nothing or something?
Just wanted to share...
Joseph LeDoux said,
"YOU ARE YOUR SYNAPSES, THEY ARE WHO YOU ARE"
Your mind and behavior are controlled by synapses....
And Synapses are influenced by Nature and Nurture.....
That is the answer.
The problem statement:
The stereotypic patterns of neuronal connectivity established during development provide the framework for proper functioning of the entire nervous system.
However, the precise cellular and molecular mechanisms orchestrating this specifity of synaptic connections remain POORLY UNDERSTAOOOD...
Time, it creates the time. The time created the natural activities.
We have today is because of yesterday.
We have future is because of today.
Time, it creates the time. The time of all natural activities is consumed and produced by time.
The creation of creator is the activities of time.
The creator of creation is the product of time.
Time and natural forces are the activities of everything.
Time is time and time created the general relativity.
When the time ceased, everything is absolute to the time.
When the activities of universe ceased, time is still making the time.
After reading the news in CNN. I have to ask...
How does the society breed fundamentalist like Warren Jeffs?
or perhaps, is it one of the ugliest side of religion?
My last question, how many people like Jeffs are still active in our society?
In this regard, I was wondering what are the points of view from the religious people...
Should we respect their faith?
Just wondering.
Three gods A, B, and C are called, in some order, True, False, and Random. True always speaks truly, False always speaks falsely, but whether Random speaks truly or falsely is a completely random matter. Your task is to determine the identities of A, B, and C by asking three yes-no questions; each question must be put to exactly one god. The gods understand English, but will answer all questions in their own language, in which the words for yes and no are 'da' and 'ja', in some order. You do not know which word means which.
Source:
For people who are interested in understanding Taoist and God are welcome...
http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTaoist.html
In my opinion, this article is very interesting and I have learned some from this article.
Please share you opinion if you got one.
If there is an uncertainty in the natural world. Science is a perfect candidate to do this job. To discover/study the uncertainty.
In addition, if god does exist in natural world, "Does god exist?" must be a scientific question. -The premise "in natural world", the god can make claims and influence on human activities.
However, an theist would argue that science cannot have such ability to do this job because of the frequency. In other words, in order to be able to examine the god, you need to be there at the right place and right time. For example, the god only appears in earth one per 1000 years or even longer like 300000 years. The question is the timing, not the identity.
Therefore, science can examines the natural world yet it requires the natural phenomena that occur in a high frequency manner. Science cannot study the frequency of events that its frequencies are discrete, random and low.
So, as non-believer, how would you argue that? ^_^
I think if the hypothesis is true, why would we bother to believe that? It is sad to see the limitation of scientific method, but it does not infer that to its incompetency for discovery of the natural world.
Bottom lines, life is short and why bother to believe the god hypothesis? True? opinions?
I would like to know what do you think about these two theories in physic.
If time is constance, then two phenomena could be observed.
One is called linearization. It consists of cause, process, effect, aged and break down.
For example, a linearization manner of universe. There is a cause and it will break down overtime. If you take the energy of all linearized processed divided to the time, the ratio will always zero. Because the time is in increase manner.
For example, a linearized manner of our universe, the current effect is proceeding (expanding) and big bang is the beginning.
Big-bang ---> universe
Another theory is called circulation. It has one major process, but the process is circulated over time and is in steady-stage. Its sub-circulated processes are all linearized form. The ratio is always 1 if you take the energy of all linearized processes from the circulated process divides the time.
For example, a circulation manner of energy. There is no beginning but circulation, it is kind of like the 1st law of thermodynamics if you ask me.
Now, I would say there is no beginning relatively speaking. I would argue that big-bang and universe is in circulated manner.
Big-bang <---->Universe.
It means, the universe can expand and contract ( in one process), the expanded energy divide by the time equal the contracted energy divide by the time. The ratio is 1.
How do I know? It is just my theory.
So.. My point here is that everyone can create their own theory, however a accepted theory which everyone (I would say less than 60%) agrees with is very difficult. Nonetheless, It does not suggest that it is impossible.
Unassailable theory takes science, time and effort. Specious theory takes assumption and belief.
Which one is untenable? Ask science.
Sometimes I think it is okay to use inductive reasoning to draw certain conclusioin... yet there is often insufficient to explain natural events. Therefore it make sense that human used other words like inducer, factors, competence, determined, and specification to elucidate an natural event.
Here, I would argue that the concept of creator and creation is oversimplifcatoin of logical thinking.
A + B = C
Is A+B the creator of C?
or
Is C equal to A + B? which there is no what so ever as creator or creation.
Can the universe is there so that earth is there?
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A --> B ----> C
Is B the creator of C and A the creator of B?
or
A induces B to form C?
A is the inducer of B and B is the inducer of C.
To make it complicated
A + B <--> C
A+B are the factors of C yet C is the factor of A+B
A+B is the creator of C and C is the creator of A+B
A ---> C if A>1
A is competence to change fate to C only if A>1
or
The fate of A turn to be C when A the creator is greater than 1?
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It is just my random thoughts..I have an exam tomorrow.... just want to kill some times.. ^_^
Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we all should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.
1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?
2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?
3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?
4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?
I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.
In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.
We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^
Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we all should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.
1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?
2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?
3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?
4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?
I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.
In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.
We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^
Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.
1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?
2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?
3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?
4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?
I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.
In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.
We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^
Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.
1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?
2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?
3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?
4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?
I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.
In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.
We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^
Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by refering to the 10 commandments.
1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?
2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers's life?
3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocents life?
4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' life?
I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.
In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.
We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^
"It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation, which is truly the most important time in your life” Lewis Wolpert (1986)
It suggests that a fertilized egg does not have a meaning of life.