Does frequency matter! Arguement from believer.

If there is an uncertainty in the natural world. Science is a perfect candidate to do this job. To discover/study the uncertainty.

In addition, if god does exist in natural world, "Does god exist?" must be a scientific question. -The premise "in natural world", the god can make claims and influence on human activities.

However, an theist would argue that science cannot have such ability to do this job because of the frequency. In other words, in order to be able to examine the god, you need to be there at the right place and right time. For example, the god only appears in earth one per 1000 years or even longer like 300000 years. The question is the timing, not the identity.

Therefore, science can examines the natural world yet it requires the natural phenomena that occur in a high frequency manner. Science cannot study the frequency of events that its frequencies are discrete, random and low.

So, as non-believer, how would you argue that? ^_^

I think if the hypothesis is true, why would we bother to believe that? It is sad to see the limitation of scientific method, but it does not infer that to its incompetency for discovery of the natural world.

Bottom lines, life is short and why bother to believe the god hypothesis? True? opinions?

Theory.. Just theory?

I would like to know what do you think about these two theories in physic.

If time is constance, then two phenomena could be observed.

One is called linearization. It consists of cause, process, effect, aged and break down.
For example, a linearization manner of universe. There is a cause and it will break down overtime. If you take the energy of all linearized processed divided to the time, the ratio will always zero. Because the time is in increase manner.
For example, a linearized manner of our universe, the current effect is proceeding (expanding) and big bang is the beginning.
Big-bang ---> universe

Another theory is called circulation. It has one major process, but the process is circulated over time and is in steady-stage. Its sub-circulated processes are all linearized form. The ratio is always 1 if you take the energy of all linearized processes from the circulated process divides the time.
For example, a circulation manner of energy. There is no beginning but circulation, it is kind of like the 1st law of thermodynamics if you ask me.

Now, I would say there is no beginning relatively speaking. I would argue that big-bang and universe is in circulated manner.

Big-bang <---->Universe.

It means, the universe can expand and contract ( in one process), the expanded energy divide by the time equal the contracted energy divide by the time. The ratio is 1.

How do I know? It is just my theory.

So.. My point here is that everyone can create their own theory, however a accepted theory which everyone (I would say less than 60%) agrees with is very difficult. Nonetheless, It does not suggest that it is impossible.

Unassailable theory takes science, time and effort. Specious theory takes assumption and belief.

Which one is untenable? Ask science.

Creator and Creation is an oversimplification of logical thinking.

Sometimes I think it is okay to use inductive reasoning to draw certain conclusioin... yet there is often insufficient to explain natural events. Therefore it make sense that human used other words like inducer, factors, competence, determined, and specification to elucidate an natural event.

Here, I would argue that the concept of creator and creation is oversimplifcatoin of logical thinking.

A + B = C

Is A+B the creator of C?

or

Is C equal to A + B? which there is no what so ever as creator or creation.

Can the universe is there so that earth is there?

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A --> B ----> C

Is B the creator of C and A the creator of B?

or

A induces B to form C?

A is the inducer of B and B is the inducer of C.

To make it complicated

A + B <--> C

A+B are the factors of C yet C is the factor of A+B

A+B is the creator of C and C is the creator of A+B

A ---> C if A>1

A is competence to change fate to C only if A>1

or

The fate of A turn to be C when A the creator is greater than 1?

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It is just my random thoughts..I have an exam tomorrow.... just want to kill some times.. ^_^

The world is gray so that human life is colourful

Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we all should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.

1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?

2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?

3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?

4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?

I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.

In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.

We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^

The world is gray so that human life is colourful

Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we all should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.

1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?

2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?

3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?

4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?

I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.

In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.

We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^

The world is gray so that human life is colourful

Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.

1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?

2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?

3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?

4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?

I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.

In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.

We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^

The world is gray so that human life is colourful

Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by referring to the 10 commandments.

1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?

2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers' lives?

3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocent lives?

4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' lives?

I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.

In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.

We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^

The world is gray so that human life is colourful

Perhaps the greatest appeal of the 10 commandments are that it makes human mind simple. eg. "this is right and that's wrong, so that we should do this than that." What a friendly suggestion! However, I would like to know what believers think of the following questions by refering to the 10 commandments.

1. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 2 other innocents?

2. Is it right to kill an innocent to save 100 believers's life?

3. Is it right to lie in order to save 2 innocents life?

4. Is it right to lie in order to save 100 believers' life?

I infer that the ten commandments work well in the world of black and white but not gray.

In my opinion, faced with that dilemma, our abilities of understanding are advancing and broadening. The human uncertainty is diluted by understanding. The gray resolution is determined by the knowledge and experience. it is often called learning and understanding. That you cannot find in 10 commandments.

We do live in the world of gray (or colourful) and I felt so lucky to live in such world, otherwise my life will be bored. ^_^

Interesting quote.. Lewis Wolpert

"It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation, which is truly the most important time in your life” Lewis Wolpert (1986)

It suggests that a fertilized egg does not have a meaning of life.